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Essence's Almost Grey Arsekicker

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Tactical Notes

The furgon is key, of course. If your opponent is on the non-furgon side, run across first move and furgon up anyway!

The opponent basically has to bust out a pyro or a Muddie to open enough LOS to your stone to break stone Focus, and either way, a pair of knights will make short work of whatever unit does the deed.

This basically plays like a droppy grey wall turt, but with the enemy either ignoring the stone (you win), or the enemy dedicating some range to breaking focus (if you can kill the range before it retreats, you win).

The witch can be replaced by a poison wisp if you're feeling more tricky than assertive-defensive.

Submitted By: Essence

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Rep: 0 Duress wrote 2 year 5 months ago:
Are you interested in playing/testing?
Rep: +1 adu wrote 2 year 5 months ago:
I find it interesting how you include a witch in the majority of your sets, despite its vast differences from the rest of your team, and its low durability (especially because it isn't a rush). In its place you could have a third knight, assassin, or beastie (which you would stone).

Other than that, its a good form with good starting position.
Rep: +2 Essence wrote 2 year 5 months ago:
I'm always interested in playing, Duress, but my schedule is such that it's almost impossible for me to predict when I'll be online.

Adu, the witch is an amazing defensive unit. Being so far back, it's not often targeted until the endgame, but it has enough range that a scout who comes back to go after the stone has to deal with not just the LW, but the witch response. In short, it's *because* it's vastly different from the rest of my team that I include her. :)
Rep: 0 du wrote 2 year 5 months ago:
yes, I saw that line of logic when I first posted. I can find no fault with it either. My disagreement was simply on the basis of my playing style. I rated your form well because I knew the witch could be used in that manner, even though I do not prefer it. Decent form :)
Rep: +2 Essence wrote 2 year 4 months ago:
The witch is, to be honest, the most often-swapped out part of the form. I've put in a Wisp, a BW, a third knight, all kinds of 'capstone' units in that slot. I've won the most games with the Witch, so there you go. :)
Rep: 0 xohox wrote 2 year 3 months ago:
Have you played this set against People using a Dragonspeaker Mage pyros ?
I have just had several games, most of them interesting,
but I always lost badly when they had this kinf of rush formation
Rep: 0 Anarchy United wrote 2 year 2 months ago:
Almost grey only counts in hand grenades and horshoes. Its a gold form, not a grey one, and as such, will get shredded by any good player.
Rep: 0 Essence wrote 2 year 0 months ago:
Define 'good'. It's got all the elements of a great trap. The furgon lures in the muddy, the frosty lures in the scout, and the knights and witch eat them for lunch. With the range eaten, the knights and scout (re)stone up, and much fun is had with the Iron Men. It's vulnerable to dub and trip frost forms, but I haven't had much trouble with that much else.
Rep: 0 Helldead reaper wrote 1 year 8 months ago:
its decent. i can see re-occuring witch
Rep: 0 Helldead reaper wrote 1 year 8 months ago:
(my msg got cut off somehow.)

its decent. i can see re-occuring witch or furgon in your sets though lol. i agree witches are good defensive units,and i use dbl witches on my grey, but never my gold sets. theyre good defensive units, good scout killers and good for a hit and run, but since almost every gold uses dragons, your witch's movement will be restricted by the dragons movement and range. that being said, i can see how this form will always be forced on the defensive, but opponents using rushes will most likely always rush in quickly and meet their demise.
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